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#161565 - 04/07/08 05:42 PM Time Table Leading To 2012?
Derestanne Offline
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I've been trying to make sense of all the predictions and world events. Plenty of people tell me not to bother but I'm not listening to them. It's the most important thing on my mind right now. Will a substantial portion of humanity begin receiving large scale assistance from the Higher Dimensions? How soon? Will people continue to "snooze" their way through the next 5 years?

My understanding is that the Alien Races who want to help our evolution along will not reveal a "public disclosure" date because they do not want the Military on this planet to have that information at the present time. A psychic friend of mine told me that she understands the Aliens who have been on Earth for quite some time, living and working among us, will reveal themselves first and immediately thereafter there will be open landings of their ships.

Perhaps there are some who know a great deal and are reluctant to speak of what they know. Meanwhile the rest of us can discuss the entire situation and maybe some light bulbs will flash on....!

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#161566 - 04/07/08 08:45 PM Re: Time Table Leading To 2012? [Re: Derestanne]
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Halo Derestanne and Well Come to Conscious Evolution. \:\)

Quite the Thread for Your First Post.

Write to the Point I say. ;\)

Let's cut to the Chase
for the Countdown is On....
Time is of The Essence indeed!

In my meanderings and reSearch,
I have come across a few interesting Words
that may help You
Or then a gain
Confuse You some more.


Taken from http://www.metatech.com, it is in Tune with what I believe You are looking for.


If you have a good cup a Jo, It is worth the read.


What's the Evidence for an historic ET presence in Iraq?


The strongest available evidence for an historical ET presence in Iraq comes from cuneiform tablets directly recording the beliefs and activities of the ancient Sumerians whose civilization began almost overnight in 3800 BC. Most of these cuneiform tablets relate stories of the Sumerians interacting with their 'gods'. Most archeologists initially accepted that these were merely myths and attached little importance to them other than giving insight into the mytho-religious beliefs of the ancient Sumerians. That viewpoint received a major challenge in 1976 when the Sumerian scholar, Zecharia Sitchin, published the first of a series of books on his translations of thousands of Sumerian tablets. (7) Rather than treating the stories of the gods as myths that had little empirical relevance, Sitchin interpreted the tablets as literal descriptions of events as they occurred in the time.

Sitchin's translations of Sumerian cuneiform tablets revealed precise information on a range of topics that he argues could not have been possible for a civilization at the initial stages of its development with no obvious predecessor civilization to borrow from. According to Sitchin, the Sumerians had detailed knowledge of all the planets in the solar system, understood the precession of the equinoxes, and also had an understanding of complex medical procedures. (8) As to where they could have gained this detailed knowledge, Sitchin's translations suggest that the Sumerians provided a clear answer for its ultimate source. They revealed in their tablets that all their knowledge came from a race of extraterrestrial visitors the 'Anunnaki' ('those who from heaven to Earth came') who were not only teachers for the Sumerians, but also played a role in the creation of the human race. The origin of this ET race was a planet called Nibiru that had a long elliptical journey around the sun, and returned to this region of the solar system every 3,600 years. (9)

When Sitchin's innovative work was first published, it raised great controversy and intense debate between those either for or against his main thesis of an historic ET presence in Sumer that was responsible for starting the remarkable Sumerian civilization. Among those responding favorably to Sitchin's thesis included established popular authors such as Erik Von Danniken who had himself written in 1969, the best selling book, Chariots of the Gods, that proposed an historic ET presence in different parts of the planet. (10) Another popular author, David Hatcher Childress, outlines with great detail the ET technology possessed by ancient civilizations in his various books. (11) Less well known authors such as William Henry have similarly published books supporting Sitchin's thesis. (12)

To support Sitchin's thesis, many authors typically cite biblical texts that make reference to the 'gods' that resided on Earth and interacted with humanity. The biblical text most referred to is the apocryphal book of Enoch. (13) While the Book of Enoch was excluded in most versions of the Old Testament, it was nevertheless part of ancient Hebrew scholarship and indeed is included in the Ethiopian and Slavic versions of the Old Testament. The Book of Enoch describes a rebel group of angels, the 'Nephilim', who numbered 200, who settled the Earth and interbred with the human population before being recalled and punished by their superiors, the 'Elohim'. (14) The Book of Enoch provides contextual detail for mysterious verses in the Book of Genesis which describes a time when the 'sons of gods', the Nephilim/Anunnaki, interbred with humanity, and created a race of giants/heroes that ruled over the rest of humanity: "The Nephilim were on the earth in those days-and also afterwards-when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown." (15) Supporters of the Sitchin thesis say that this is part of the biblical evidence that an advanced ET race did in fact exist on Earth, had a long interaction with humanity, and even played a role in the creation of the human race.
In addition to the growing number of authors, independent archaeologists and biblical commentators supporting Sitchin's thesis, there are a burgeoning number of individuals who claim to be in telepathic communication with ET races who reveal information on the historic ET presence in Sumer. One of these ET 'channels', is Jelaila Starr who claims to be in touch with beings from Nibiru itself, and she regularly releases online information from the Anunnaki themselves on her website. (16) Another is Sheldan Nidle who 'channels' an ET race from the star system Sirius gives extensive information on the historic presence and influence of the Anunnaki in his books and website. (17)

There is great controversy over the extent to which such a disparate collection of evidentiary sources can substantiate the Sitchin thesis of an historic ET presence in Sumer. Despite the controversy generated by such sources, they provide a wealth of information that merits closer examination in terms of their public policy implications. Given that exopolitics is based on the premise of an ET presence that is subject to non-disclosure by clandestine government organizations, it is possible to provide an exopolitical perspective on Sitchin's thesis despite the ongoing debate over the consistency and accuracy of the available evidence.

How Does the Historic ET presence relate to US policy in Iraq?

An independent archaeologist that discusses a direct link between the ancient ET presence in Sumer (southern Iraq) and current US focus on the regime of Saddam Hussein, is William Henry. Henry's main thesis is that there existed in Sumerian times a technological device which he describes as a 'Stargate', that the Anunnaki/Nephilim used to travel back and forth from their homeworld and the Earth, and also how they travel around the galaxy. (18) Henry focuses on the following scene described by Sitchin's interpretation of a cuneiform tablet of an Uruk ritual text:
Depictions have been found that show divine beings flanking a temple entrance and holding up poles to which ringlike objects are attached. The celestial nature of the scene is indicated by the inclusion of the symbols of the Sun and the Moon.... depicting Enlil and Enki flanking a gateway through which Anu is making a grand entrance. (19)

Rather than a simple temple scene involving the chief Anunnaki of the Sumerians, Anu and his two sons, Enlil and Enki, Henry proposes that the above scene represents a transportation device used by Anu and others from the elite Anunnaki. If so, then such a device is most likely located in the Sumerian city of Uruk which was the founding city of the Sumerian civilization and the home of Gilgamesh, the famed king of the Epic of Gilgamesh. (20)
Sitchin, and authors such as David Childress who discuss the various technologies used by ETs and ancient civilizations, missed the significance of the Stargate in their own translations of the above texts and investigations of ET transportation. Both operated in a conventional paradigm where transportation occurs through rocket propelled vehicles. (21) Sitchin focuses on rocket propelled spacecraft in his description of the Anunnaki and their various trips to and from the Earth. For example, describing the transportation used by the Anunnaki in moving between their earth and space based locations, Sitchin wrote: "The texts reveal that three hundred of them - The "Anunnaki of Heaven," or Igig- were true astronauts who stayed aboard the spacecraft without actually landing on Earth. Orbiting Earth, these spacecraft launched and received the shuttle craft to and from Earth." (22)
It therefore can be concluded that there were two forms of transportation used by the Anunnaki. One was a form of rocket technology familiar to us which was used by the resident Anunnaki on Earth who Sitchin, described as the "rank and file Anunnaki" who administered the Earth and humanity according to the dictates of their space based compatriots. (23) Another transportation technology was the Stargate which presumably was used only by the highest class of Anunnaki, who dispensed the tasks of harvesting the Earth's resources to the resident and space based Anunnaki (lessor gods/rebel angels). Interpreting the Babylonian Epic of Creation, one gains an idea of the way tasks were allotted and the hierarchy of the Anunnaki in the way the 'supreme god' Marduk, dispensed tasks to his subordinate Anu, chief of the Anunnaki:

Assigned to Anu, to heed his instructions, Three hundred in the heavens he stationed as a guard; the ways of Earth to define from the Heaven; And on Earth, Six hundred he made reside. After he all their instructions had ordered, to the Anunnaki of Heaven and of Earth he allotted their assignments. (24)
Thus the Anunnaki operated outposts both on Earth and in Space to maintain their control over the planet. Given the strict hierarchy of authority described by Sitchin in his detailed analysis of the Anunnaki and their interactions with one another and humanity, it is likely that the Stargate would have been revered and a subject of awe by the resident Anunnaki and humanity who could only observe its operation but were not allowed to use it themselves. As such, there would have been only a limited number of Stargates around the planet, with the Sumerian Stargate being located in the most important of the ancient Sumerian cities - the most likely being the ancient capital of Uruk, home of the ancient kings, which is located in Southern Iraq. Significantly, after a 12 year lull in excavations, a team of German researchers in 2002 resumed excavations in the buried city of Uruk. Using a magnetometer which is able to detect the presence of man-made objects beneath the soil, and a powerful computer system in Germany, German geophysicists were able to map out the buried structures of the sprawling ancient capital of 5.5 km2 that was where Sumerian civilization began. (25)

An important event in the Sumerian descriptions of the Anunnaki, was the latter's final departure from the planet during a series of cataclysmic events that culminated in the period 1800-1700 BC. (26) Indeed, conventional archeologists support the view that there was a regional cataclysmic event that occurred at that time. (27) If in fact there were two modes of transportation used by the Anunnaki, when most of the resident/lessor Anunnaki left by conventional rocket ships, elite Anunnaki most likely left by the Stargate and closed it down. Predictably, given the reverence and awe surrounding the Stargate, it would not have been left unprotected in the interim period between their departure and its reactivation with the prophesied return of the Anunnaki.

A wide number of sources describe the present era in terms of a 'prophesied return of the gods/Anunnaki'. The notion of a 'prophesied return' in the context of the former Anunnaki presence varies in meaning according to three different perspectives. The first perspective is based simply on the idea of the gods or 'Anunnaki' physically returning to resume a prominent role in influencing human affairs and overseeing the use of resources of the planet. (28) In such a scenario, the first wave of Anunnaki would arrive to create the favorable conditions for the anticipated return of the Anunnaki elite. This would involve the lessor Anunnaki first returning and activating the Sumerian Stargate that would be required for the return of their leaders. Presumably, this would be heralded as a sacred event that should be celebrated by all humanity. The authors, Clive Prince and Lyn Picknett, argue that there has been an identifiable chain of global events involving key religious and political actors preparing humanity for just such a return. (29)

The second perspective on the "return of the gods/Anunnaki' is the return of their home world, the planet Nibiru. Indeed, there has been much interest generated by a range of books and online web sites devoted to the topic of the return of Nibiru, the home world of the Anunnaki. Many authors cite a variety of astronomical evidence supporting the idea of a tenth planet that has long been speculated to influence the orbits of Uranus and Neptune ever since it was found that Pluto (discovered in 1930) could not account for these perturbations. In the late1970's two astronomers from the US Naval Observatory, Tom van Flandern and Richard Harrington, begun publishing a series of papers supporting the existence of a tenth planet. (30)

The most widely cited reference to support the thesis of a tenth planet that is known but not released to the general public, is a series of press releases by the astronomical team that were searching a part of the sky which calculations by van Flandern and Harrington suggested would be where the tenth planet was. In December 1983, the chief astronomer in charge of the Infrared Astronomical Satellite (IRAS) run by the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Dr Gerry Neugebauer, announced possible confirmation of such a planet. The Washington Post Reporter summarizing the announcement wrote: "[a] heavenly body possibly as large as ... Jupiter and possibly ... part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation of Orion by an orbiting telescope..." (31) After a total of six major newspapers covered the announcement, there was a retraction of the announcement and public silence by astronomers on the possible existence of a tenth planet. Rumors began to emerge of an active campaign of suppression of information and intimidation by clandestine government organizations. (32) For example, one of the astronomers at the US Naval Observatory, Dr Richard Harrington, spoke publically and wrote articles on the hypothetical planet X and there has been speculation that this directly contributed to his untimely death by 'natural causes' in 1992. (33)

A third perspective on what the 'prophesied return of the gods/Anunnaki' means can be found in authors who focus on the significance of the upcoming end of the current Mayan 5,200 year cycle. According to John Major Jenkins, the Mayans were aware of the way the solar ecliptic plane comes into alignment with the galactic plane on periodic basis. This makes it possible for more intense cosmic energies to reach the earth from the galactic core. There is then a corresponding increase or decrease in the level of human consciousness, i.e., parts of the brain either go online or off-line, as these Mayan cycles go through their different phases. According to Jenkins, the year 2012 corresponds to the end of the current Mayan cycle and will lead to a rapid transformation of global consciousness. (34) Numerous authors refer to this as a New Age of more enlightened global thinking and increased human potential. (35) The 'prophesied return of the gods' may therefore signify a rapid in human consciousness as dormant parts of the brain come on line when the solar ecliptic comes into alignment with the galactic plane. In this explanation, humanity itself would develop 'god-like' powers which spontaneously become accessible to large numbers of humanity. A number of authors, for example, have been describing the amazing abilities and psychic powers of an increasing number of children world wide. (36)

In sum, the available information on the 'prophesied return of the gods' can be understood to signify an important milestone in the growth of human civilization. The 'prophesied return' can be interpreted either literally or metaphorically to mean either a physical return of the 'gods'/Anunnaki; the return of a mysterious 10th planet to the solar system; or a rapid growth in the consciousness of humanity as the solar plane comes into alignment with the galactic plane. Despite the controversy over what precisely such a 'prophesied return' signifies, the factors in such a return that most pertain to the current political situation in Iraq and preemptive military intervention by the US can be identified and analyzed. The first factor is that an ET transportation device, a Stargate, or some other important ET artifact, may lie buried in the desert of Southern Iraq which presumably will play a role in the 'prophesied return of the gods'. Second, it is possible that there will be a return of a tenth planet that plays a critical role in return of the Anunnaki and/or which significantly impacts on the global environment. Finally, there is the potential for a rapid acceleration of human consciousness as the end of the Mayan Calendar, 2012, approaches.

Exopolitical Analysis of US policy towards Iraq

If there is a Stargate existing in Southern Iraq that will play a role in such a 'prophesied return of the gods', then it is most likely that clandestine government organizations that greatly influence or control the Bush administration, are aware of the existence and the role of this Stargate. Iraq's President Hussein is most likely also aware of such a Stargate's existence as might be inferred by his architectural projects intent on reviving the grandeur of early Mesopotamian civilizations, and cementing his place as the restorer of Iraq's past glory. (37) More significantly, his permission for a German team of archaeologists to resume excavations in the Sumerian city of Uruk after detailed underground mapping, suggests that this may be the location of the Sumerian Stargate. This knowledge of a buried Stargate, may also be part of the reason why the German government has been publically opposed to a US preemptive war against Iraq. If in fact both the Hussein regime and the Bush administration believe that a Stargate lies buried in the sands of Southern Iraq, then there most likely exists a race to gain access to it and to control it. William Henry's thesis is that this is indeed the political underpinning of the continuing military conflict in Iraq. (38)

From the perspective of the Bush administration, control of the Sumerian Stargate would enable clandestine government organizations to continue their global campaign of non-disclosure of the ET presence. (39) This is strongly implied by the Bush administration's penchant for secrecy and overturning many of the Freedom of Information initiatives from the earlier Clinton administration. Control of the Stargate, in addition to any other Stargates that may have been established in the capitals of other civilizations, e.g., the Egyptian, Incan and Aztec; would presumably give clandestine government organizations greater leverage with ET races that are presently interacting with the planet, or are predicted to arrive on the scene in some event associated with the 'prophesied return of the gods'. At the very least, control of the Sumerian Stargate would allow clandestine government organizations to dictate the pace of global transformations that ET races promise to introduce to the Earth with their advanced technology, superior knowledge and heightened psychic abilities.

On the part of Hussein Regime, control of the Stargate would allow him to activate it and to fulfill prophesy by facilitating the return of an advanced race of ETs, the elite Anunnaki. President Hussein probably imagines that in return for his loyalty to the elite Anunnaki, he would be rewarded with a position of great global authority. Perhaps he would even see himself as some kind of human savior facilitating the return of the gods who would solve all of humanity's problem, and end the rule of clandestine government organizations perpetuating non-disclosure of the ET presence. Significantly, European governments such as Germany, and perhaps even France and Russia, may be giving themselves greater leverage in the future control of the Stargate by offering diplomatic cover for the Hussein regime as a quid pro quo for allowing the resumption of archaeological digging in Uruk. These governments and the clandestine organizations associated with them that have access to knowledge over the ET presence, most likely have deep suspicion over the willingness of the US to share information and control over the future of the Sumerian Stargate and any other ET technology discovered in Iraq.

Sitchin's thesis of an ancient ET presence in Sumer combined with the notion of a variety of ET transportation devices described by other authors in their research of ancient civilizations, and resumption of archaeological excavations of the first Sumerian capital Uruk in 2002, give support to William Henry's thesis of a Stargate that lies buried in the sands of southern Iraq. This provides important contextual information that is helpful in understanding the true motivations of the Bush administration in launching a preemptive attack on Iraq.

It may be argued that the Bush administration and the Hussein Regime are both in a race against time to gain access and control of the Stargate in the ruins of Uruk or some other location in Iraq, before the prophesied return of the Anunnaki. At the moment, a stalemate exists. Hussein controls the ground in Southern Iraq, and is permitting the German led excavations in Uruk, while the US led coalition controls the sky and is monitoring the situation. The Bush administration wants control of Iraq territory to take control of excavations of Uruk to uncover its buried Stargate, and closely monitor and control it. In contrast, Hussein wants to find and activate the Stargate for his greater glory and presumably the benefit of humanity.

The primary evidentiary support for the above discussion is admittedly thin for conventional public policy experts and may sound better suited to a fictional thriller than serious public debate. From a conventional perspective, a scattered assortment of independent archeological authors, radical exegetical interpretations of biblical texts, the writings of 'channels' of ET knowledge, speculative papers from astronomers hardly constitute a persuasive source of information for understanding the motivations of US foreign policy. The prevailing explanations of a Bush administration as either devoted to eradicating Weapons of Mass Destruction, and/or being driven by oil interests and imperial ambitions would predictably prevail for those unconvinced by the above sources.

There is however some important circumstantial evidence which lends plausibility to the Henry thesis of a Stargate as the true focus of the Bush administration or at least key interest groups behind it. The first piece of circumstantial evidence, are the overwhelming whistleblower testimonies confirming the existence of clandestine government organizations responsible for suppressing public knowledge of an ET presence, and which controls all official interaction with ET races. (40) From an exopolitical perspective, then, the clandestine suppression of a contemporary ET presence, supports the conclusion that there is also an active clandestine suppression of an ancient ET presence which also has significant public policy implications.

The second piece of circumstantial evidence, is the powerful diplomatic support given by Germany and France to the Hussein Regime in warding off a preemptive military strike. So powerful has been this support, that the US Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, disparagingly referred to them as the "Old Europe" in response to a reporter on January 22, 2003:

"You're thinking of Europe as Germany and France. I don't. I think that's 'old Europe.' If you look at the entire NATO Europe today, the center of gravity is shifting to the East. And there are a lot of new members. And if you just take the list of all the members of NATO and all of those who have been invited in recently -- what is it, 26, something like that? [But] you're right. Germany has been a problem, and France has been a problem." (41)

Rather than backtracking on what was a diplomatic bombshell, the Bush administration has instead continued to go to extraordinary lengths to isolate the German and French positions on Iraq. For example, the administration encouraged the leaders of Spain, Portugal, Italy, the United Kingdom, Hungary, Poland, Denmark and the Czech Republic, to write a letter to the Wall Street Journal on January 30 that said ``the Iraqi regime and its weapons of mass destruction represent a clear threat to world security.'' (42) Rather than merely an intense diplomatic debate over different policy positions on Iraq, the striking language and positions taken in this debate suggests a more fundamental conflict over issues hidden from the public view. It is likely that there exists a factional struggle between clandestine government organizations set up to deal with the ET presence in the US, with rival organizations created in Germany, France and also Russia.

The third piece of circumstantial evidence is the resumption of excavations of the first capital of Sumer, Uruk, by a German archeological team in 2002. Given the prominence of Uruk and its likelihood as the site for a Sumerian Stargate, then resumption of excavations raises questions over why they were resumed at this time and what is being sought. Given that political tensions in Iraq had not significantly diminished in 2002 with it being a likely source of future military conflict with the US, it can be suggested that there are powerful hidden motivations for what on the surface appears to be a purely scientific dig of an ancient Sumerian capital.

The fourth piece of circumstantial evidence was the destruction of the Space Shuttle Columbia during its final descent on February 1, 2003, at an approximate height of 38 miles and travelling at Mach 18. One of the astronauts was the first Israeli in Space, Colonel IIan Ramon from the Israeli Airforce. Col Ramon reportedly played a role in the Israeli attack on Iraq's nuclear facility in Osirak in June 1981, and there has been speculation that his mission involved intelligence gathering over Iraq during the Shuttle's orbits. The destruction of Columbia occurred 16 minutes before touch down when its fuel tanks would have been virtually empty. A likely source of the Shuttle's destruction, given the speed and height of the Columbia, would have been some form of attack from an organization or state possessing military capabilities well beyond any terrorist groups and indeed most nations. The likely cause would have been a clandestine government organization that desired to send an important message to its US rivals over the threatened preemptive attack on Iraq.

When all the primary and circumstantial evidence is put together, what emerges is a very plausible case that supports Henry's thesis of a power struggle that goes to the heart of the ET presence and the continued clandestine suppression of ET related information and its full implications. The interpretations of the motivations of the Bush administration in launching preemptive war on Iraq in terms of the concerns raised in Bush's 2003 State of the Union address, or the corporate and imperial interests suggested by his critics such as Robert Fisk and Michael Lind, can all be described as part of the surface layer of motivations driving the Bush administration. At a deeper level, it is likely that there is great anxiety by clandestine government organizations in terms of what would happen if Hussein, with the support of the German and other European governments, gained access to the Sumerian Stargate or other ET technology buried in Uruk, or if the Stargate were to somehow reactivate without clandestine government personnel present to monitor and control the Stargate. President Bush's State of the Union address outlining the need for a preemptive attack on Iraq, in most likelihood masks a hidden agenda to gain access to the Stargate or other ET technology in Uruk and elsewhere in Iraq. Such access would presumably perpetuate clandestine government control over global resources and information at a time of increased ET activity and influence.

Conclusion: Policy Implications and Recommendations

If the exopolitical perspective is a more accurate description of the motivations driving the Bush administration in pushing for a preemptive war on Iraq, then the following policy recommendations can be made. (43) First, the quality of evidence substantiating an historic ET presence and clandestine government cover up has a significant degree of credibility and persuasiveness. This supports the creation a new field of public policy, exopolitics, which would study the historic ET presence in terms of its implications for contemporary public policy.

Second, there is a need to promote official government disclosure of the historic ET presence and/or the impending return of these ETs; and to make more representative the policy making process that has evolved in government responses to such information.

Third, evidence suggests that the present military preparations for a war against Iraq have little to do with weapons of mass destruction, but are designed to perpetuate US clandestine government control of information concerning the historic and present ET presence. Such a preemptive war should therefore be stopped and a resolution between the US, Iraq and interested European governments should be encouraged.

Fourth, evidence suggests that the Iraq conflict and the destruction of the Columbia Space Shuttle mask a deep factional struggle between clandestine government organizations associated with different national governments that were initially created to deal with the ET presence. It is recommended that there is public disclosure of these organizations and their efforts in monitoring and responding to the ET presence, and that these organizations become accountable to elected public officials.

The final policy recommendation is that there needs to be more effort in determining the extent to which congressional and legislative oversight is required for organizations created in different countries to deal with all aspects of the ET presence, both past and present, and on the implications of a projected return of a race of ETs associated with the birth of human civilization.

This paper suggests that the best mechanism for responding to the existence of ancient ET technology in the ancient Sumerian capital of Uruk and/or elsewhere, is a willingness by major world governments and associated clandestine organizations to share information and control over these ET assets. A preemptive war conducted largely for the control of a 'Stargate' in Uruk which pits the US and its allies, against an Iraq which is tacitly supported by key European nations, could be calamitous if indeed the 'prophesied return' signified an actual physical event involving the ancient ET race that played a role in the start of human civilization. Competing clandestine government organizations struggling through a proxy war over the control of ancient ET technology in order to prepare for those events corresponding to the 'prophesied return of the gods', would hardly send the best example of a mature humanity responsible enough to continue to exercise sovereignty over the Earth's resources. The Columbia Space Shuttle may well have been a high profile victim of such a proxy war intended to send a message to US based clandestine organizations over the preemptive war against Iraq. .Human sovereignty may therefore be at stake at the very time where there exists an opportunity for a rapid movement forward in the evolutionary growth of human consciousness. It is up to all humanity to decide how we respond to the challenge posed by clandestine organizations struggling over Iraq's historic resources to further their respective secret agendas.


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We find Each Other.
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#161569 - 04/08/08 05:27 AM Re: Time Table Leading To 2012? [Re: Chahldean]
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Hello Chahldean,

I very much appreciate your posting of this Article. I have been aware of the situation for some time. Taken in context with more recent developments and disclosures, the Metatech Article remains accurate if also dated. Nexus Magazine added briefly to this matter in the Sept. - Oct. 2007 Edition with an article entitled, "Twilight Zone: more testimony from Henry Deacon".

Briefly, the implications of the Nexus Article is that there are actually several Stargates on Earth. Control of the Iraq Stargate was imperative to United States interests only to the extent that use of the Stargate could then be denied to anyone not loyal to the Bush / Shadow Government Clique. The Bush / Shadow Government has several Stargates at their disposal, including the infamous "Montauk Compound" at the far Northern end of Long Island, NY.

Messages from the more benevolent Aliens concerning the Iraq Stargate is that it is presently in operation again and must be shut down because it is being used by the Shadow Government and "Negative ET's" for purposes counter to the interests of Humanity and the Planet.

As pointed up by Al Bielek, Preston Nichols and others, the Shadow Government enjoys using the Stargates to tamper with time, with the objective of creating present and future timelines more favorable to their oppressive and destructive agenda. I consider it highly probable that all of us are now living in a timeline that is many-times-removed from what otherwise would have been the genuine Present and Future timeline for our Planet. This only adds to the challenge of figuring out where in the heck we are now and how matters will play out, leading up to 2012.

I am interested in hearing any speculation, psychic insights, leaked information or just plain wild notions of how we are going to "get there (2012) from here (2008)". Where is "Doc" from "Back To The Future" when we need him???

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#161578 - 04/08/08 03:12 PM Re: Time Table Leading To 2012? [Re: Derestanne]
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Interesting post guys, although I haven't taken the time to read the link/info Chahlie posted yet, but will have to tell my husband (woodchiro) of this post as this is the kind of stuff he resonates with. Maybe he'll join you in this conversation.

Have you checked out http://www.fourwinds10.com yet?
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#161589 - 04/09/08 11:07 AM Re: Time Table Leading To 2012? [Re: Veneo]
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Hi Veneo,

The Fourwinds Website is very much like Jeff Rense's Site (www.rense.com), except that I think Fourwinds is much better.

The way that I see things at this point in human history is that the mundane political aspect is really the small story. We need to pay far more attention to what is going on in our skies and in the Unseen Realms of the Universe. Humanity is being manipulated by a handful of sadistic megolomaniacs like a cow with a ring through his nose. Our Planetary Leadership is what J.J. Hurtak's book, The Keys Of Enoch, refers to as "fallen intelligence who set themselves up as God's in the lower realms".

Now we are really being given the treatment at this point in history. The Discovery Channel airs a Program on Nostradamus and goes out of it's way to make the case that Nostradamus' Quatrains predicted both the 911 Attacks and the "final battle between good and evil" - a wonderful, glorious World War III between Christians and Muslims, with (of course) the Christians (i.e. the Western Capitolist Nations) winning! As was pointed out by William Cooper, the Powers That Be are using the Bible, Revelations, Satanism; everything they can get their hands on, to create an End-Of-The-World Scenario that suits their ungodly, selfish personal interests. And they are hoping that the rest of us are all dumb enough to take the bait!

Another "prediction", if you will, of particular interest to me is found in the book, "Last Waltz Of The Tyrants", which is said to be a compilation of messages from Ramtha, channeled by JZ Knight and Others. Toward the end of that book, it is stated that , "a certain country will be told that it must do something but will refuse to do so" when this happens, the End Times will occur. My own sense about this is that it is a reference to Iran, but could also be North Korea.

From various articles that I've seen, I believe that several attempts have already been made by the Bush Administration, dating back into last year, 2006, to launch an all out attack on Iran. I believe a major reason why every attempt to attack to date has failed is because the Aliens are using their advanced technology to disrupt our military actions. There are other reasons too, including that senior military officers have been opposed to attacking Iran (the last holdout was recently fired and replaced with someone more war mongering).

Based on the implications contained in "Last Waltz Of The Tyrants", instead of World War III, we may have a very brief Worldwide military engagement between the Shadow Government and the Aliens. I think by now it is clear that the Bush Administration Tyrants believe it is their "destiny" to initiate World War III and "beat those pesky Middle Easteners" who refuse to bow to the mighty New World Order! The Aliens have said that if too much radiation is released from nuclear sources, the Earth will be rendered unfit for any life and they will not allow this to happen. When that statement is factored in, a final confrontation between the Government and the Aliens appears to be most inevitable.

I could add more, but I want to give others the opportunity to comment.

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#161662 - 04/13/08 09:27 AM Re: Time Table Leading To 2012? [Re: Derestanne]
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Halo Derestanne \:\)

I am also very pleased there are those who are reSearching and doing their homework around hear. The unfolding of such knowledge and unveiling of it's intent can be both mind altering and
disconcerting to those who live in the "box".
I too, was one of those people, who COULD NOT BELIEVE what I was reading in those Sites you and Kel( ) speak of.
Like Being lost in a library with no subjects and departments, where non- Fiction and Science Fiction are fused as one, leaving the Viewer to decide what they "believe" based upon their open or closed mindedness.
The problem I think, is that most people do not Believe anything anymore. \:\(
And with that, their actions speak louder than silence; complacently sitting around waiting for the Whirled to slow down and fix It Self. Human Beings have become closer to cattle and droids than stuff the Stars are made of.
Toiling over Words and Dogma.
Wrestling each other in archaic arenas of one upmanship and downtroddenness.
Using One and Other for and against each Other....
All awhile
Real Eyesing there is far more to the Picture
than meets the I. ;\)

And Hear we are.

Threading together pieces of Knowledge
fabricating the Hole Truth
as we Understand It.
Trying to raise the awareness of the sleeping Masses...
like an alarm clock, ringing out in the darkness.
Wake UP People! NOW is the Time.

We, as Humans, can AND MUST have some special ability
to create and defend our Selves within this Cosmic Play.
Some special Power given to Us that allows us to participate in this Cosmic Dance of Universal Beings.
THere must be a reason for our longevity here on Earth and we possess some capability we are not aware of for some reason;
for if we have no choice in what is Being acted out and are mere victims,
then wouldn't It have happened already? Wouldn't we be overrun by now?

Our BEarth given Rite of Free Will is a carefully coveted Force within our Selves, that protects the Divine Spark from flagrant abuse of those whose intent is maligned.
We have the POWER to create. The Power to Change. The Power to DO NOTHING. IT was given to Us upon our entrance into our witness. The Awakening of Awareness.

And as of late, this Awakening is happening expedentially.
The Shift has certainly begun. ANd spiralling fast...
Contact is soon to Be made I believe....
IF not already.
Are YOU ready?


Put on Your helmet and get in the Game.

WE NEED MORE PLAYERS!



Chahlie


Edited by Chahldean (04/13/08 09:29 AM)
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Be Cool. Stay Loose.

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Ephesians 6:12

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#161673 - 04/13/08 03:44 PM Re: Time Table Leading To 2012? [Re: Chahldean]
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Registered: 03/08/08
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Dear Chahldean,

That was certainly a statement; indeed, I would say a personal testimonial!

For those like you and myself, the entire situation presents a tremendous predicament. I was told many years ago that a number of souls on this Planet Earth are here simply to observe what is taking place, not to get personally involved. There are a few who came to take up drastic action and are definitely doing so. We are so often asked to remember those who gave their lives in War for the Freedom of our Country. What about all of those who have died to keep the Peace or to make life better for everyone else? I believe that on Holidays like Dr. Martin Luther King Day, we should remember everyone who died as Peacemakers or Light Workers throughout history.

With the predicted ET Contact soon to come, the Aliens have attempted to make understanding Their reality sound like a breeze in the park! How can they be serious? I know plenty of people who still can't manage to operate a computer - and it's Year 2008!

Indeed, were I to find myself face-to-face with the Aliens, although I would not hesitate to go with them, one of the first things I would say to them on my own behalf would be, "You don't ask a sparrow to behave like a mammal and you don't ask a cow to behave like a human being. You will therefore have to accept me at my level; I'm not going to apologize for it. Please don't ask me to embrace your level of existence which I will scarcely be able to comprehend. Almost everything that forms my personal reality happened to me in the last 54 years. Among you, I am a fish out of my native water".

I honestly don't know if the majority of people don't want to know what is really happening, don't care, think that what they don't know won't affect them or are (most probable answer) so totally absorbed and taken up their own lives that they are oblivious to most everything else.

And no matter how upset I become with the foolishness or utter sloth of humanity, in the face of growing World chaos and destruction, I keep reminding myself that we cannot make judgments about our fellow beings. Compassion really does matter!

I will take this opportunity once again to remind folks that we have prophecies scattered throughout the World, from Ancient Egypt to the Hopi Prophecies, to the Mayan Calendar and they all appear to be pointing in the same direction. How many people are sensing right now that time Is Short and now is the time to do whatever it is that you really want and need to do?

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